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| =Map Pages Brainstorming=
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| include reasonings in guide? probably not. too opinionated and people won't get the full point across and thus render them redundant. only do it for concrete points.
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| go through default/commmon sentences that will be repeated between pages and link Glossary terms (e.g. Rollout)
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| go through and provide references wherever possible. mp_showroundtimes is a reference for map information section
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| narrative statements:
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| * common feedback on the maps, particularly if it fell out of rotation
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| * popularity within a region if it is/was exclusive to a region (e.g. Metalworks NA, logjam EU/AU)
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| === Things that would need to be constantly updated ===
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| trigger: new season
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| *infobox
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| *inclusion table
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| *6v6 maps navbox
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| *map pool history if tournament pages aren't kept updated
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| === Intro ===
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| *Default sentence
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| *Additional sentences adding normal information if needed
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| *Narrative statements, potentially avoiding need for history/other sections
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| "Product is not a truly symmetrical map"
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| '''Gullywash''' is a [[5CP]] map created by Arnold.
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| === Infobox ===
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| *Title: Gullywash
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| *Image: Gullywash.png
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| *Map type: 5CP
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| *Latest version: <code>cp_gullywash_f9</code>
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| *Developers: Arnold
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| *First released: XX XXXX 2011
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| *Latest update: XX XXXX 2022
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| *Official map: Yes
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| *alternative names/pro versions
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| *Links
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| **Download
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| **Steam workshop
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| **TF2 Maps
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| **Gamebanana
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| **TFTV
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| **Official wiki
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| **Official wiki competitive
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| *Portal (once functional)
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| ...
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| === history ===
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| developmental history, including update history if official? Would have to maintain this so prolly no?? but also it is a way to add words so prolly yes
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| ==== version history ====
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| [[Map pool history]]
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| {| | |
| ! date
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| ! filename
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| ! version
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| ! download
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| changelog links, notes column?
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| version history either goes at top or bottom
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| map league inclusion table does have a comprehensive use. case in point me using them to find if maps from the all maps navbox are 6v6 maps or hl lol maps. just don't think there is a sustainable solution to keep them updated. even just as an infobox entry??
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| actually, if you are going to include out of rotation maps on the wiki and in the navbox, putting league inclusions is quite necessary. either stricten the criteria for maps (such as "map must be notable/have a defined history in the competitive scene") or have inclusions at least somewhere on the map pages
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| simply cannot include highlander in everything in this page. would have to create a secondary Gullywash (Highlander) page as this would alter inclusion history, strategy, resources, navbox
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| two tables. inclusion history and version history.
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| no version history. I don't want a fucking changelog on a wiki. only need information for maps that have been used in competitive play. do MLIT but with no templates, just a collapsible table. should already be set to collapsed? also don't include this high up the map page if no narrative in the history section. no UGC,
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| === flythrough ===
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| === Callouts ===
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| can also be done with video resources on youtube
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| === map guide/strategy/long list of words===
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| seems to be very prevalent on many map wikis so maybe?
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| [https://counterstrike.fandom.com/wiki/Cache]
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| [https://counterstrike.fandom.com/wiki/Cache/Guide]
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| no strategy section. there is no such thing as a definitive strategy for like 80% of situations. it is such a fluid topic and can't be written succinctly to the point of being useful.
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| anything definitive about strategy or map characteristics/unique elements should be added. "Gullywash has only 2 entracnces to mid instead of the traditional 3". "Process mid is very dependent on height on crates". Strategy section is the only thing missing from a complete resource for a map page
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| === Rollouts ===
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| === Map overview ===
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| Large overview image with option to show:
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| * Control points
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| * Health + ammo packs
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| * ...
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| probably not feasible to do the hover thing. most important thing is to have an overview image somewhere. either in gallery, in own section or in infobox. prolly gallery. is feasible to make an edited overview image with important things marked. but idk
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| === Map information ===
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| Gullywash is notable for having the lowest last capture time blah blah blah
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| Guide info:
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| * how to calculate capture times using harmonic number
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| * how to find respawn wave time using that mp command idk i forgot
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| * find health + ammo packs from either tf2 wiki (unreliable at times) or running around the map
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| {{Box|start|padding=2em}}
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| {| class="wikitable" width="300px" style="text-align:center"
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| |+ Capture times (seconds)
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| ! Multiplier
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| ! [[Glossary#Mid|Mid]]
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| ! [[Glossary#Second|Second]]
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| ! [[Glossary#Last|Last]]
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| ! x1
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| | 19.00
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| | 16.00
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| | 3.80
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| |-
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| ! x2
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| | 12.67
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| | 10.67
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| | 2.53
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| |-
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| ! x3
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| | 10.36
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| | 8.73
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| | 2.07
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| |-
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| ! x4
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| | 9.12
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| | 7.68
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| | 1.82
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| |-
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| ! x5
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| | 8.32
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| | 7.01
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| | 1.66
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| |-
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| ! x6
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| | 7.76
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| | 6.53
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| | 1.55
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| |-
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| ! x7
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| | 7.33
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| | 6.17
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| | 1.47
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| |-
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| ! x8
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| | 6.99
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| | 5.89
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| | 1.40
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| |-
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| ! x9
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| | 6.72
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| | 5.66
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| | 1.34
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| |-
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| ! x10
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| | 6.49
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| | 5.46
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| | 1.30
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| |-
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| ! x11
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| | 6.29
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| | 5.30
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| | 1.26
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| {{Box|break|padding=2em}}
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| {| class="wikitable" width="300px" style="text-align:center"
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| |+ [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Respawn#Respawn_times Respawn wave times] (seconds)
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| ! colspan=5 | Control points owned by opposing team
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| ! 1
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| ! 2
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| ! Neutral
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| ! 3
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| ! 4
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| | 8.9
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| | 8.9
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| | 8.9
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| {{Box|break}}
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| {| class="wikitable" width="300px" style="text-align:center"
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| |+ Health and ammo packs
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| ! [[File:Smallhealth.png|20px|Small health|link=]]
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| ! [[File:Mediumhealth.png|20px|Medium health|link=]]
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| ! [[File:Smallammo.png|20px|Small ammo|link=]]
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| ! [[File:Mediumammo.png|20px|Medium ammo|link=]]
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| === Resources ===
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| Guide:
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| * Video needs more than 1000 views (or maybe 500?)
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| * Video needs to represent competitive TF2 well
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| *shorten video title for the table (within reason)
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| *youtube:
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| **_map_ review
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| **_map_ rollout
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| **rollout.tf _map_
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| **_map_ demo review
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| **_map_ pov
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| ***needs comms cause there's always a fuckton
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| **_map_ competitive tf2
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| **cp__map_ XXXX
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| *put prem/invite in tournament area to distinguish between low level demo reviews and high level demo reviews
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| **once season structure project is done
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| {| class="wikitable sortable"
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| ! Resource
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| ! Link
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| ! Date
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| ! Class
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| ! Author(s)
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| ! Tournament
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| ! rowspan=4 | Guides
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| | [https://youtu.be/ZbHiexB7Xz8 Gullywash Roamer Map Review]
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| | 12 Oct 2020
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:Roamericon.png|20px|link=Roaming Soldier]]
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| | [[marmaloo]]
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| | [https://youtu.be/osRG7Lp_Awc 6s Gullywash Maptalk]
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| | 12 Jun 2019
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:TF2LogoBlack.png|20px|All classes|link=]]
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| | cyanic
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| | [https://youtu.be/m3LC5eN6Ek8 How to TF2 - Scout tips for Gullywash middle]
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| | 7 Aug 2017
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:Scouticon.png|20px|link=Scout]]
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| | [[SVMZI]]
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| | [https://youtu.be/Uxls9QvV674 Cube´s 6vs6 Competitive TF2 Guide - Gullywash Edition]
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| | 10 Dec 2015
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:TF2LogoBlack.png|20px|All classes|link=]]
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| | Cube
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| ! rowspan=2 | Callouts
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| | [https://youtu.be/_5E-rgWSH6U cp_gullywash callouts]
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| | 24 May 2017
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:TF2LogoBlack.png|20px|All classes|link=]]
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| | rollout.tf
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| | [https://youtu.be/_J6ujFxyrPw Gullywash Map Callouts]
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| | 10 Jun 2016
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:TF2LogoBlack.png|20px|All classes|link=]]
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| | Grizzly Berry
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| ! rowspan=6 | Rollouts
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| | [https://youtu.be/fppQ9LzACmk cp_gullywash demoman rollout]
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| | 26 Jul 2016
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:Demomanicon.png|20px|link=Demoman]]
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| | rollout.tf
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| | [https://youtu.be/lEqu01r6kHY cp_gullywash roamer rollout]
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| | 23 Jul 2016
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:Roamericon.png|20px|link=Roaming Soldier]]
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| | rollout.tf
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| | [https://youtu.be/8Nam-bhmLyM cp_gullywash scout rollout]
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| | 23 Jul 2016
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:Scouticon.png|20px|link=Scout]]
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| | rollout.tf
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| | [https://youtu.be/nM2tvsi4zFQ cp_gullywash pocket rollout]
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| | 7 Jul 2016
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:Pocketicon.png|20px|link=Pocket Soldier]]
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| | rollout.tf
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| | [https://youtu.be/dqy68uHHlP8 Pocket Rollout Basics: cp_gullywash_final1]
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| | 13 Apr 2015
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:Pocketicon.png|20px|link=Pocket Soldier]]
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| | [[b4nny]]
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| | [https://youtu.be/6L30_coSIuw MGE: Demo#b4nny: Gullywash Demo Rollout]
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| | 8 Dec 2011
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:Demomanicon.png|20px|link=Demoman]]
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| | [[MGE]], b4nny
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| ! rowspan=2 | Tutorials
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| | [https://youtu.be/kGG8pW724zE cp_gullywash sticky traps]
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| | 28 May 2017
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:Demomanicon.png|20px|link=Demoman]]
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| | rollout.tf
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| | [https://youtu.be/qcZWz-JmVuc cp_gullywash hiding spots & winger jumps]
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| | 26 May 2017
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:TF2LogoBlack.png|20px|All classes|link=]]
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| | rollout.tf
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| ! rowspan=7 | Demo reviews
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| | [https://youtu.be/vTiOSKFOfn8 Invite Roamer Demo Review on Gullywash with SOOOOOAPYMEiSTER]
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| | 23 Nov 2021
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:Roamericon.png|20px|link=Roaming Soldier]]
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| | [[RGL]], [[SOOOOOAPYMEiSTER]]
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| | [[RGL 6v6 Season 5]]
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| | [https://youtu.be/ai9qOnoj_RA?t=6856 kaidus demo review s31 grand finals]
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| | 10 Jul 2019
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:TF2LogoBlack.png|20px|All classes|link=]]
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| | [[kaidus]]
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| | [[EFT2L 6v6 Season 31]]
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| | [https://youtu.be/qxsnibVLZPY?t=2960 Kaidus Demo Review Upper Bracket Finals]
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| | 19 Mar 2019
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:TF2LogoBlack.png|20px|All classes|link=]]
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| | [[kaidus]]
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| | [[EFT2L 6v6 Season 31]]
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| | [https://youtu.be/4VTgW1EtEpc Subscriber Demo Review: Shiki (cp_gullywash Pocket POV)]
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| | 21 Jan 2016
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:Pocketicon.png|20px|link=Pocket Soldier]]
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| | b4nny
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| | [[ESEA Season 20]]
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| | [https://youtu.be/xh1kZt6cEVg seagull roamer demo review #2]
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| | 22 Oct 2015
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:Roamericon.png|20px|link=Roaming Soldier]]
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| | [[Seagull]]
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| | [https://youtu.be/p15x-DAkURA mike roamer demo review]
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| | 20 Oct 2015
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:Roamericon.png|20px|link=Roaming Soldier]]
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| | [[Seagull]]
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| | [[i55]]
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| | [https://youtu.be/bUhj_Tk0stE PYYYOUR's Demo Review of Invite Gullywash Matches (Part 1)]<br>[https://youtu.be/4EBFtSqrGjY PYYYOUR's Demo Review of Invite Gullywash Matches (Part 2)]
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| | 21 Jan 2013
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:Demomanicon.png|20px|link=Demoman]]
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| | MR SLIN, [[PYYYOUR]]
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| | [[ESEA-I Season 13]]
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| ! rowspan=3 | POVs
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| | [https://youtu.be/UJ1pSA5Ldxs RGL S4 Week 5B: jayhyunpae POV vs Wonderwall gullywash]
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| | 24 Oct 2020
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:Pocketicon.png|20px|link=Pocket Soldier]]
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| | [[jayhyunpae]]
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| | [[RGL 6v6 Season 4]]
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| | [https://youtu.be/Yk-t4zzYBKI b4nny POV: froyotech vs Dorsia (RGL-I S3 Playoffs)]
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| | 1 Aug 2020
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:Scouticon.png|20px|link=Scout]]
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| | b4nny
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| | [[RGL 6v6 Season 3]]
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| | [https://youtu.be/wYwUNpAzktA RGL S1 Grand Finals arekk POV Map 2]
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| | 22 Nov 2019
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| | style="text-align:center" | [[File:Scouticon.png|20px|link=Scout]]
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| | [[arekk]]
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| | [[RGL 6v6 Season 1]]
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| === Gallery ===
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| any images from research that happen to be interesting, such as previous iterations or something idk
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| === Trivia ===
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| it is called water because there used to be water u idiot
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| it is called river because it leads to water
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